Diskussion rund um Poet

[bejuleba]

Kann damit jemand was anfangen


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[weltbummler]

Bis dato hat mich keiner als Pessimist hier oder bei .... erlebt aber wehe wehe Poet ist nicht bei HP involviert dann haben wir ein RIESEN Glaubwürdigkeit Problem. Denn dann hätte man wohl bewusst beim Meeting im April die Unwarheit gesagt das Poet eine Alleinstellung in dieser Technik hat !! ??

[bejuleba]

Na, das sieht doch gut aus 1,62 Kan. $. Auch der Datum .....Freitag, der 13 und Vollmond....... so was gab es zuletzt vor 14 Jahren, und kommt erst in 35 Jahren wieder. Das wäre doch eine passende Gelegenheit für Poet mit einer NR rauszukommen.

[Sunny3999]

Jun 13, 2014 15:46:04 GMT 1 weltbummler said:

Bis dato hat mich keiner als Pessimist hier oder bei .... erlebt aber wehe wehe Poet ist nicht bei HP involviert dann haben wir ein RIESEN Glaubwürdigkeit Problem. Denn dann hätte man wohl bewusst beim Meeting im April die Unwarheit gesagt das Poet eine Alleinstellung in dieser Technik hat !! ??

Das stimmt so aber nicht ganz, POET muß ja mit anderen zusammen entwickeln die werden ja kein eigenes Produkt entwickeln....Das Patent das HP von Geoff Taylor benennt ist eins von über 30 Patenten....also ein Bruchteil dessen was noch anstehen könnte.

Es war schon immer klar das sie einen Partner in der Entwicklung der bereits Produkt hat für die Umsetzung benötigen, wenn HP der Einstieg sein sollte, es sind noch immer wage Vermutungen, dann folgen mit Sicherheit weitere die solche Produkte umsetzen wollen.

Denkt euch mal das die Kostenersparnis einen sofortigen Austausch aller bestehenden Systeme rechtfertigen würde, Holla die Waldfee....alleine das wäre ein riesiges POETential!

Mer schaun mar mal, dann wer maa schoa seha...

[fireblade03]

Zur Frage von bejuleba, der Link in dem geschrieben würde, dass PTK (POET) ein symmetrisches Dreieck bildet.

Ich habe ja auch keine Ahnung davon, für mich ist das wie höhere Mathematik, aber wohl doch nicht so kompliziert. Börsensprache eben.

Zu 'symmetrisches Dreieck' fand ich folgende Definition im www:

Das symmetrische Dreieck wird durch zwei konvergierende Linien gebildet, die symmetrisch zueinander sind.
Idealerweise sind innerhalb dieses Dreiecks mind. 4 Umkehrpunkte vorhanden.
Die Formation tritt als Trendbestätigungsformation sowohl im Aufwärtstrend, als auch im Abwärtstrend auf.
Der Kurs sollte idealerweise im 3/4-Bereich der Formation in der vorherrschenden Trendrichtung ausbrechen.

Derjenige, der das geschrieben hatte, also worauf sich der Link von bejuleba bezieht, rechnet also in den nächsten Tagen mit einer 'Bewegung' des Kurses.

Ich denke, wenn sunny oder ein anderer unserer Leser/member hier sich näher damit beschäftigen, bekommen wir Greenhorns eine verständliche Aussage!

Auf einen grünen Endspurt, und ein schönes WE Euch allen!!!!

Grüße, Fireblade

[Sunny3999]

Jun 13, 2014 18:28:17 GMT 1 fireblade03 said:

Zur Frage von bejuleba, der Link in dem geschrieben würde, dass PTK (POET) ein symmetrisches Dreieck bildet.

Ich habe ja auch keine Ahnung davon, für mich ist das wie höhere Mathematik, aber wohl doch nicht so kompliziert. Börsensprache eben.

Zu 'symmetrisches Dreieck' fand ich folgende Definition im www:

Das symmetrische Dreieck wird durch zwei konvergierende Linien gebildet, die symmetrisch zueinander sind.
Idealerweise sind innerhalb dieses Dreiecks mind. 4 Umkehrpunkte vorhanden.
Die Formation tritt als Trendbestätigungsformation sowohl im Aufwärtstrend, als auch im Abwärtstrend auf.
Der Kurs sollte idealerweise im 3/4-Bereich der Formation in der vorherrschenden Trendrichtung ausbrechen.

Derjenige, der das geschrieben hatte, also worauf sich der Link von bejuleba bezieht, rechnet also in den nächsten Tagen mit einer 'Bewegung' des Kurses.

Ich denke, wenn sunny oder ein anderer unserer Leser/member hier sich näher damit beschäftigen, bekommen wir Greenhorns eine verständliche Aussage!

Auf einen grünen Endspurt, und ein schönes WE Euch allen!!!!

Grüße, Fireblade

Habe mal auf der Chartanalysenseite ein Bildchen reinkopiert und gezeichnet...Punkt, Punkt, Komma, Strich fertig ist das Mondgesicht!

LINK: sunny3999.freeforums.net/thread/16/die-sch-nste-formation?page=1&scrollTo=263

[Sunny3999]

Zur Erinnerung! Pellegrino & Associates LLC Bewertung







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Opel's POET at $1-billion says Pellegrino report

2011-03-02 10:31 ET - News Release

Mr. Michel Lafrance reports

THIRD PARTY VALUATION OF POET TECHNOLOGY OVER $1 BILLION

Opel Solar International Inc. has received a third party valuation of intellectual property developed by its United States affiliates Opel Inc. and Odis Inc. The Planar Opto Electronic Technology (POET), initially developed by Dr. Geoffrey Taylor at the University of Connecticut and licensed to Opel Inc., is a semiconductor fabrication technology that enables the dense packing of digital, analog and optical circuits on a single gallium arsenide chip. The technology now makes it possible to monolithically integrate a wide number of electronic and optoelectronic functions in a single chip with higher speeds and reduced power consumption compared with Silicon CMOS. For the same functionality, the chip size would be considerably reduced to approximately the size of half a person's thumb nail.

Opel commissioned a valuation analysis of the POET technology portfolio by an independent, third party valuation firm, Pellegrino & Associates LLC. The Pellegrino firm performed an analysis of the uses of the POET technology, the sales it could achieve in its targeted end-markets, and likely margins if Opel can complete its research and development activities successfully and the market adopts the POET technology. Using a number of valuation techniques and based on technical information provided to it by the company, the valuation firm has estimated that the POET technology portfolio could be worth as much as approximately $1-billion. This worth is derived from a range of values; the median value being $966.6-million, while the mean valuation was reported at $1.31-billion.

Using the income approach to value, Pellegrino & Associates built a valuation model to determine the economic income that might be possible from the potential exploitation of the POET technology in several prospective markets. Pellegrino & Associates used market data, revenue projections, investment data and cost data as from various sources, including from Odis representatives, to determine the economic income attributable solely to the POET technology. Pellegrino & Associates then integrated the information into a valuation model, accounting for the economic life of the POET technology. Pellegrino & Associates LLC performed a royalty rate analysis to determine what the market may bear as a reasonable royalty rate for the exclusive use of the POET technology. Pellegrino & Associates developed a risk-adjusted discount rate to discount forecast future free cash flows to determine a nominal value indication as of the appraisal's effective date.

To account for the uncertainty inherent in the valuation process, Pellegrino & Associates captured the complex model interactions in the face of uncertain estimating assumptions using Monte Carlo simulation techniques. This did not constrain the valuation model to any single value predictions of key values such as royalty rates or costs. Pellegrino & Associates programmed the valuation model to recalculate repeatedly to create a distribution of outcomes that Pellegrino & Associates analyzed. Pellegrino & Associates used the range of values calculated by the model to come to a final determination. In complex situations that involve uncertainty, this methodology helps to generate meaningful estimates that would otherwise be impossible to model using discrete methods such as best-, expected- and worst-case modeling. Pellegrino & Associates used the median value from this simulation process as the fair market value for the POET technology. The company will post a copy of a redacted version of the valuation on its website as well as on SEDAR, concurrent with the dissemination of this press release. Disclosure of certain information in the valuation would be seriously prejudicial to the interests of the company and its shareholders, or would violate confidentiality provisions with third parties, and has been omitted or marked to be unreadable. The redactions have been done by the company and Pellegrino & Associates. The omitted information is that information necessary to protect important proprietary and technical information of the company and third parties, including Pellegrino & Associates, and to protect against competitor infringement.

It is important to note that a third party valuation is not an indication of interest by any party, nor does it represent an actual offer to purchase the POET intellectual property. As indicated in the report, the POET technology is still under development, and no assurances can be given that such development will be successfully completed, that the technology will be brought to commercial realization or that the company's target markets will adopt this technology. Commercial applications of the technology will likely not be available for several years, if ever.

In the real market, the technology could generate as many prices as there are buyers in the market, with each buyer having the ability to pay its own specific price based on its own specific set of circumstances. In the end, the final price will be the result of a set of negotiations between buyers and sellers that the valuation firm could not ascertain or forecast for the purpose of its engagement. However, Pellegrino & Associates did test its value conclusions to ensure that there was a reasonable economic basis for its value opinion.

Pellegrino & Associates prepared its report in accordance with the Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practice (USPAP) adopted by the Appraisal Standards Board of the Appraisal Foundation, and the Principles of Appraisal Practice and Code of Ethics of the American Society of Appraisers. Opel paid Pellegrino & Associates a flat fee for its analysis that was in no way contingent on achieving any predetermined value conclusion. Further, Pellegrino & Associates has no current or contingent interest in Opel and has no duty to update its analysis to account for subsequent events.

The board of directors of Opel engaged Pellegrino & Associates in order to assess the potential for the POET technology and is considering alternatives to realize the full value of the POET technology. On Feb. 28, 2011, the board of directors passed all of the necessary resolutions to authorize the sale of the POET intellectual property portfolio. Currently, the board of directors is evaluating proposals from investment banking firms specializing in this technology regarding an engagement to consider strategic alternatives for Opel's future exploitation of the POET technology, which may include the full or partial sale of the technology.

Opel will host a conference call to discuss the valuation, strategic alternatives and the POET technology. The call will occur on Friday, March 4, at 11 a.m. ET. Interested parties can participate by calling 1-888-510-1765, which is toll-free in Canada and the U.S. (other international callers can dial 1- 719-457-2624, which is not toll-free.) The call will also be webcast. A replay of the call will be available on the Opel website, in the investor relations section, for one year after the call.

Leon M. Pierhal, chief executive officer of Opel, elaborates: "We are extremely proud and excited about the work we are doing on the POET technology. We control a revolutionary technology that we think can fundamentally alter the landscape of the server, smart device and computing industries. Never before has one chip been able to integrate both electronic and optical circuits. By combining them in one part, we believe we can eliminate the inefficiency and cost burden on systems that must use separate chips for each function. These cost-savings and performance improvements can be immense, potentially transforming the whole industry."

Background on POET technology

Known as the Planar Opto Electronic Technology (POET), POET fulfills a long-held objective of the semiconductor industry, bypassing many of the physical limits of existing semiconductor technologies. Key benefits of the POET platform include faster semiconductor operating frequencies -- up to 100 gigahertz-- lower heat losses, greater reliability and total system cost. All components of the technology have been validated by third parties, and the company expects to have a fully integrated, operational chip within months. The technology is protected by numerous U.S. and international patents issued and pending.

Odis personnel are working with leading defense systems integrator companies, and with military and government agencies to develop important applications for the technology. With partners, Odis is developing infrared arrays for imaging, optoelectronic switches, compact ultralow power memory, optical CDMA communications chips and radio frequency detection arrays. The company believes that POET has numerous applications in computing and communications technologies, and it will fundamentally alter the landscape of those industries with heretofore unattainable functionality and price/performance.

We seek Safe Harbor.

[bejuleba]

Hi Poeten, auch ein interessanter Beitrag


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vielleicht mit Hilfe von Poet ?

[Sunny3999]

Hier zwei eindeutige Hinweise für den Einsatz vom GEOFF TAYLOR - Patent!

Compact photonic platforms

Publication date 6 Feb 2014
Filing date 30 Jul 2012
Applicant Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.
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PATENTSCHRIFT von HP 2012 mit Namen von Geoff Taylor

Auf der IBK HOMEPAGE von Inwentash

Potential applications include:

POET’s technology can surpass speed limits of widely used CMOS silicon chips and is much better positioned for stacking multiple chips to increase performance;
A functional POET device may reduce the power consumption of laptops, tablets, smartphones, servers, and/or other electronic devices by 80%;
Leads to drastic reduction in device size and battery power consumption – Power reduction in commercial-scale server farms represents tremendous cost savings to companies like IBM, Google and Intel – In November 2011, Hewlett Packard announced that it is working with numerous chip manufacturers to create ultraefficient, low-energy servers aimed at companies running large scale remote computing operations such as Twitter and Facebook; and,
POET can also produce an infra-red sensor for use in air, sea, ground, and space with sensitivity that is an order of magnitude higher than existing technology

[Sunny3999]

Zu der Patentschrift von Geoff Tayler weitere Firmen

Hier kommen schon die nächsten Namen! Siehe Patentverwenderliste!

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[Sunny3999]

Geoff Taylors Patenteinsatz bei der US Air Force

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[Sunny3999]

Ergänzend zum Patent....
Datum Code Ereignis Beschreibung
16. Jan. 2006 AS Assignment
Owner name: THE UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT, CONNECTICUT
Free format text: ASSIGNMENT OF ASSIGNORS INTEREST;ASSIGNOR:TAYLOR, GEOFF W.;REEL/FRAME:017015/0596
Effective date: 20011127

[Sunny3999]

Hier ist die Übersetzung des Patents!

Hinweis

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ZUSAMMENFASSUNG US6031243

Ein kantenemittierenden Laser-Wellenleiter erhalten, der seine optische Leistung von einem Vertical-Cavity-Laser-Struktur ableitet.
Vertical-Cavity-Laser mit oberen und unteren verteilten Bragg-Reflektoren erzeugt eine stimulierte Emission durch Resonanz in der vertikalen Richtung, aber die so erzeugten optischen Leistung wird durch ein Gitter zweiter Ordnung in einer optischen Ausbreitungsmodus in den optischen Wellenleiter mit den oberen und unteren Spiegel ausgebildet gebeugten Mantelschichten.
Der Wirkungsgrad des Beugungsgitters und der Reflektivität der Spiegel maximiert werden, so dass im Wesentlichen das gesamte Licht in die Führung gekoppelt ist, und der Verlust durch die Spiegel vernachlässigt werden kann.
Die gleiche Struktur kann als ein Detektor, einem Modulator oder einem Verstärker verwendet werden.
Die bezeichnete Laserstruktur, um diese Form der Operation zu erreichen, ist die Inversionskanal-Laser, ein Laser mit seitlich eingespritzt beide Kontakte auf der Oberseite des Gerätes.
Dann wird die Anode und Kathode des Lasers im wesentlichen koplanare Elektroden und die Vorrichtung in Form einer Wanderwelle Laser, Detektor, Verstärker oder Modulator, der die Grundlage für eine sehr hohe Frequenzleistung Formen implementiert.

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Neuste 20F

Änderungen sind.....

Neue Paragraphen:
1.:
.... "The Company has designed POET to be relatively easy to implement utilizing industry standard tools and infrastructure. The ability to utilize industry standard circuit design tools and process flows enables low adoption cost for the implementation of POET. The POET wafer fabrication process is similar to that for current industry standard silicon CMOS, as POET supports current manufacturing and testing infrastructures, including test-on-wafer techniques, as well as post-fabrication procedures comparable to existing silicon CMOS procedures. The primary additional requirement for silicon CMOS foundries would involve the acquisition of molecular beam epitaxy (“MBE”) capability for the pre-processed GaAs wafers, or outsourcing the purchase of such wafers."

2.:
...."The Company seeks to monetize its technology assets by a combination of (i) license revenues for specific vertical markets, with grants of exclusive rights for agreed upon timeframes; (ii) foundry non-recurring engineering (“NRE”) revenues for POET technology transfer and support to foundries adding POET capability to their product and services offerings; (iii) foundry design kit royalty revenues from sales by foundries of libraries and designs kits incorporating POET to device designers developing new chip offerings; and (iv) royalties from sales by integrated circuit manufacturers and OEMs of POET chips sold individually or incorporated into an electronic device. The Company is targeting initial revenues from NRE to begin within twelve months of the date of this Registration Statement. In support of its marketing efforts, the Company is developing working prototypes of certain devices — ring oscillator and high-speed vertical cavity laser — in order to display the capabilities of POET. The Company projects that such prototypes will be ready for display and testing by the end of 2014."

3.:
....6 month delay ..."We currently expect to produce a functional integrated circuit prototype by the end of 2014, although no assurances can be given that such project will be completed on a timely basis, if at all."
Commercialization


First Phase: Initial Prototypes and Initial Production

We anticipate producing initial prototype devices meeting commercial requirements in sufficient quantities utilizing a third party fabrication facility. Prototype devices targeted to be used to introduce the POET platform process to the marketplace could enable the Company to gain access to potential customers and seek early commercial design wins. The Company expects that the First Phase of commercialization will generate non-recurring engineering revenue with OEMs, foundries or both with an initial prototype device

Commercialization

The Company will focus first on licensing opportunities that can make its POET process stand out. To achieve this, the Company anticipates teaming with key players in the semiconductor industry value chain, including circuit design houses, software tool providers, foundries, assembly houses, test tool providers, as well as electronic equipment OEMs, to produce and deliver POET driven devices into the commercial market segment in order to obtain high visibility quickly and to position the technology to achieve fast commercial acceptance. While we have historically relied on U.S. government grants, which from 2001 to present have totaled $8,894,576, and other funding, we do not anticipate any future government funding going forward in the commercialization process.

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anticipated to be available by the end of 2014.

Second Phase: Production

The Company’s model is to be fabless, meaning that we will not manufacture devices incorporating our technology for commercialization, but will instead work with third party semiconductor fabrication facilities to produce prototype POET integrated circuit devices, then use those prototypes to market our technology for license. Initial prototypes under development include a ring oscillator and a high speed vertical cavity laser, each of which are anticipated to be completed by the end of 2014. To the extent that POET is successfully introduced and demand dictates, the Company intends to continue to improve on its ability to promote technology by entering into licensing relationships with well known, commercial market-focused fabrication facilities worldwide. Such semiconductor manufacturers would be expected to develop certain libraries and specific design kits to incorporate our POET technology in their products marketed to their customers. By doing so, such foundries would enable their customers to assess the performance, power and space advantages projected to be offered by the utilization of POET. We anticipate receiving flow-through royalty revenue as our manufacturing licensees, if any, sell ICs incorporating POET technology to their customers.

Manufacturing

The Company has contracted with BAE for the transition phase of its POET platform development from the POET laboratory on the campus of UCONN. If successfully completed, the Company expects to negotiate with BAE for the continued and on-going manufacture of wafers to meet the Company’s initial requirements for sampling and marketing purposes.

BAE’s III-V GaAs fabrication facility is ISO 9001/14001 certified, military specification certified and can produce radiation hard devices. BAE’s state of the art facility houses two 3” wafer diameter production lines and two 6” wafer diameter production lines within 14,000 sq. ft. and a wafer test area covering 16,000 sq. ft. The facility is vibration isolated and environmentally controlled for sub-micron device development and manufacture. We believe that there is substantial capacity available to us for implementation of our development and to-market plans, and that BAE would be receptive to making such capacity available to us. Currently, a staff of over 150 engineers is devoted to design and development with another 70 devoted to foundry operations and testing. Thus the Company believes that BAE’s wafer production capabilities can be a significant resource to the Company’s marketing efforts.


Third Phase: POET Technology Sales Royalties

If our manufacturer licensees, if we are able to develop any, successfully market our POET technology in the Second Phase, we anticipate receiving revenue from royalties on their semiconductor chip sales to their customers. We are unable to forecast when such revenues, if any, would commence, but would anticipate that OEMs would test and evaluate the qualities of chips manufactured utilizing POET before incorporating such chips into new electronic devices.


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und vielleicht passend dazu von agoracom

POET's Business Plan
in response to New 20F filing from SH by Happyhour
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